See below for a transcript of the zoom chat with some excellent links…

20:10:41 From Bridget MacDonald to Everyone (in Waiting Room) : Please post your questions/discussion point folks

20:17:24 From Jo Winning to Everyone : Please do feel free to start posting questions/thoughts

20:27:06 From Bridget MacDonald to Everyone (in Waiting Room) : Duffell “The Making of Them”

20:27:10 From Lia Ali to Everyone : I’m glad you brought up Dominic Cummings – I was wondering if the reaction to the Barnard Castle incident can in some ways be explained by that tension that Ajoy was describing?

20:27:25 From Bridget MacDonald to Everyone (in Waiting Room) : Alice Miller “The Drama of Being a Child”

20:28:00 From AMH President to Everyone (in Waiting Room) : Yes, Lia – this is very interesting -both his reaction and public reactions.

20:28:03 From Jo Winning to Everyone : Duffell “The Making of Them”

20:28:21 From Jo Winning to Everyone : Alice Miller “The Drama of Being a Child”

20:28:27 From Bridget MacDonald to Everyone (in Waiting Room) : And in realtion to being female read “Slut Growing Up Woth a Bad Reputation” Leora Tanenbaum

20:28:45 From Jo Winning to Everyone : And in realtion to being female read “Slut Growing Up With a Bad Reputation” Leora Tanenbaum

20:28:58 From Lia Ali to Everyone : Ah the phrase I used to hear wasn’t know your place it was ‘keep your head down’

20:29:31 From Jocelyn Lehman to Everyone : I stepped a way for just a moment and came back to hear Zoe speak about IG trauma of the Indigenous peoples in North America. I am a settler in Treaty 7 territory (Calgary, Alberta). I am adding a link here for anyone interested in hearing the voices representing 3 generations of 1 family. In addition there are QR links to videos about ongoing colonial practices, displacement and need to see/ listen to the truths. This exhibit is available online from a Montreal gallery and features Glenna Cardinal and Seth Carinal Dodginghorse. New Agency is available at the polling link: https://www.articule.org/en/events/new-agency 20:29:42 From Muna Al-Jawad to Everyone : In terms of loss, I was thinking about how we mark the many deaths and other tragedies caused by COVID, I was taught the symbolic importance of rituals by Zoe. Do the speakers think rituals might help some in society get through the anomie stage? And how should we construct these rituals so they do not exclude the people most affected and marginalised by COVID, for example older people?

20:29:51 From AMH President to Everyone (in Waiting Room) : and perhaps don’t put your head above the parapet

20:30:25 From Bridget MacDonald to Everyone : fromHost “and perhaps don’t put your head above the parapet “

20:34:02 From Bridget MacDonald to Everyone : Just a plug, she and her daughter gave a talk this week free if you look at RSM on YouTube

20:35:31 From Lia Ali to Everyone : yes anomie

20:37:37 From Bridget MacDonald to Everyone : Actually running tonight so viewableon YouTube

20:38:21 From Bridget MacDonald to Everyone : In Conversation Live with Cellist and Holocaust survivor Dr Anita Lasker-Wallfisch and her daughter Maya Lasker-Wallfisch, a psychoanalytic psychotherapist

20:38:56 From AMH President to Everyone (in Waiting Room) : I wonder if anomie in terms of normlessness during the crisis – is not also also exposing (in behaviours) exactly what is wrong and needs to be fixed at the heart of society as evidenced by lack care from trans-illness experiences. It presents an opportunity for rethinking so-called norms – i am also thinking of Canguillem – not Durkheim – norms do not exist – ‘normality does not exist. So this is also about an Arendt-style everyday wrong. So – how can we fix this? In medicine and medical training?

20:46:00 From AMH President to Everyone (in Waiting Room) : So maybe specifically written into professional standards as forms of equity-based differencing?

20:50:00 From Jocelyn Lehman to Everyone : A pleasure – sorry for the typos… link is accurate

20:51:10 From Bridget MacDonald to Everyone : The link works, I just did it!

20:53:56 From AMH President to Everyone (in Waiting Room) : This is a wonderful link – thank you Jocelyn

20:57:30 From Muna Al-Jawad to Everyone : I think that’s the problem, the gestures/attempts so far (rainbows and claps) have felt empty and hollow

20:59:22 From Catherine Jenkins to Everyone : I appreciate the notion of remembrance post-covid. Just wondering if there was any such thing post the 1918-19 flu epidemic. Would it have made a difference to our priorities in terms of the importance of healthcare?

21:00:44 From Bridget MacDonald to Everyone : I think it got subsumed by post-war “getting back on with it” and there was little discussion at the time, but I am not an expert

21:10:09 From Jocelyn Lehman to Everyone : Another link from Canada – a collection of 2020 documentary (shorts) from the National Film Board (NFB) of Canada – https://www.nfb.ca/the-curve/ruptures-and-enlightenment/ Look for – Pandemic at the End of the World does speak to smallpox, and the Spanish Flu —> and the knowledge that keeping this history alive through elders and knowledge keepers is having an effect on small, remote , arctic communities during COVID 19 — Thank you so much for this mid-day pause

21:10:57 From Jo Winning to Everyone : Thank you Jocelyn, what a fantastic link.

21:11:51 From Jocelyn Lehman to Everyone : My pleasure!

21:13:08 From Neerali Soni to Everyone : Thank-you so much for these very important conversations – it has been absolutely fascinating! So much to mull over and consider!

21:13:25 From valeria maccioni to Everyone : thank you very much

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